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March 18, 2018 at 9:08 am #24007Rigley WingfeatherGuest
Why do you think Janner should stay dead? Maybe you think he should be resurrected? Put your thoughts here
March 23, 2019 at 11:01 am #35137Ninja Wizard PenguinGuest
I think he should maybe stay dead…I mean Janner rocked of course, but I think he should stay dead because it is symbolism for the sacrifice of saving his brother and truly “becoming” a throne warden.
If you disagree, please share your thoughts!
I am rereading the fourth book for the second time and I haven’t reached the end yet, but I know it’s coming and there is a sense of foreboding
March 28, 2019 at 7:27 pm #35283KalmarGuest
I agree with Ninja Wizard Penguin.
April 28, 2019 at 8:22 am #35839Kalmar WingfeatherGuest
I think Janner should be resurrected, not just because he was amazing, but BECAUSE of the symbolism. His death and sacrifice didn’t just represent him becoming a throne warden, it represented Jesus Christ dying on the cross for our sins. The fangs and cloven were ugly and twisted, and Janner saved them from that. Of course Janner wasn’t perfect in the least, and it was obviously one of the maker’s works. This is just my opinion.
April 28, 2019 at 9:12 am #35846Ninja Wizard PenguinGuest
I actually still do see your point..
I don’t agree with it completely, but it is so very true!
Janner was far from perfect, and maybe that is why he does not come back.
I love the insight of the symbolism. I always love reading things I didn’t catch in the books
April 28, 2019 at 11:47 am #35847Kate H.Guest
When Janner died, it gave me a bittersweet feeling. He did an amazing, heroic act that really elevated his character in my mind. He saved hundreds of lives! And there is also the fact that he went to the maker, which is a much better place than even the Shining Isle.
So I do not think he should be resurrected, because it takes the honour and heroism out of the deed. It would also drag him out of the Maker’s home and into Aerwiar again, which would be going from amazing to sinful again. I’m guessing he wouldn’t like that very much. I just kinda feel that it would be selfish to bring him back just because we want to have him go through more adventures.
I wrote a poem for him and posted it in this forum. Go check it out for further thoughts.
April 28, 2019 at 5:29 pm #35857Ninja Wizard PenguinGuest
Again, love all the insight I miss!
April 5, 2020 at 6:17 pm #44702JezzyfreshGuest
I agree with Kalmar wingfeather. I think that Janner should come back to have more adventures. And about what you said Kate H. I kind of agree with you but knowing that he will go back some day and he has a limited time in Arewar I think he should come back.
June 9, 2020 at 12:35 pm #50101JashtonGuest
I absolutely love that the epilogue ends with “Either way, it will make a great story.” because it’s so true. Either way the symbolic weight is so heavy and the joy/pain are so real and I really am not sure which way I lean.
If Janner does not rise then the story becomes one of Kalmar’s challenging kingship in light of his brother’s death (which he caused). The questions become ones of doubt – clearly the maker wanted this, was it worth it? It also brings a degree of humanity to the fantasy since countless Christians die for others and will not rise until Christ returns. If Janner rises he contradicts this aspect of reality and separates him from these people’s sacrifice.
On the other hand, if he does rise there is a fantastic tale to be told of what that means. I firmly believe that if Janner rises he cannot be as he was. Will he be older? Will he long to go back? Will he still be satisfied with this world or will he long for something better? How will he love Kalmar now that he has braved death for him? How will he love Sarah Cobbler who so clearly loves him? What will it mean to have a healing well in a sinful world? If Janner rises than the secret of the well is unlost and resurrection is available to anyone the Wingfeathers choose. If this is the case his death is ultimately a mirror of Christ’s in an astounding way because he restores the fang’s humanity and he opens the door to an eternal kingdom. In other words, it would embrace the fantasy of the tale more than the humanity which would then align the story closer with the deeper realities fantasy strives for.
Either way, it will make a great story.
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